Saturday, June 16, 2012

Shooting Stances Part 2


Shooting Stances and Positions Part 2:




First thing I want to mention that sadly trainer Paul Gomez has passed away in the last week. He was a huge resource to the industry The amount of information he made available via Youtube was priceless. In fact one of his videos was going to be mentioned in this post and even more so now that he should be remembered for what he added to the industry.

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The video brings up the point of how while the training industry has finally recognized that static stances don’t win gunfights, there has unfortunately become a “anti-stance” movement as well. This is just as bad as the “one stance only” movement for those who carry a gun for personal protection has been.

If you couldn’t tell based on part 1 of this series, I’m a fan of the Modified Iso stance for the basics with occasional practice of the Weaver/Modified Weaver, Iso and Bullseye stances as they will pretty much all be used in a gunfight.  This brings us to the next part of shooting positions.

Odd Positions.

There is a lot of flak given out in the shooting community (mainly from unqualified square range only instructors) to those that teach “odd position” shooting. For example, shooting underneath vehicles. People with square range mentaility gave Magpul Dynamics grief for the second DVD series they released that featured a scenario where two of their instructors where shooting around and under a car.
Starting at 1:57, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJQTpTljLz8

See this video clip from the movie “Sinners and Saints,” specifically starting at 27 seconds into it for an example of why you should at the least know how to shoot under objects. http://youtu.be/7Tb12T3mXFs


For a real life example of why knowing how to shoot underneath objects is valuable, let me refresh your memory of the North Hollywood Shootout. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
The two shooters were wearing body armor of some sort and running long guns – AK-47 and AR-15 variants. The officers were only armed with sidearms – with a couple Shotguns present. When LAPD SWAT finally arrived on scene they brought AR-15’s with them. During this time the bad guy’s had gone mobile with the final shootout being around cars and the LAPD officers putting the bad guy’s down by shooting under and around vehicles. See 5 minutes into this video: http://youtu.be/5zJV9l0dWwg According to an FBI agent I talked to, LAPD officers put rounds underneath the vehicles and into the last bad guy, ending the fight.

Remember that gunfights are fluid situations. Here is s compilation of gunfights and shootings from a LE perspective (thanks to many LE agencies installing dashcam video systems we have these).  http://youtu.be/9o3xyfj6Rko What you can see is that nobody assumes a perfect square range stance for the duration of the gunfight. Its moving and shooting the whole time.

In a real world gunfight, your cover or concealment will not be located at the perfect height or exactly as you trained on the square range. Its going to be what is available in real life.

For a practical training tip, go around your property evaluating cover and how to shoot around it from a 360 degree point of view. What shooting positions are needed? Next, go to your place of work. What if an active shooter happened there? Do you know your egress plan for all possible entrance points? The needed shooting positions to engage threats there? (Be careful of your works possible communist anti-gun policies though). Look at your environment and problem solve before you need to use your firearm.

To sum it up, square range stances are fine for the square range, but don’t be so dogmatic about any one of them that you forget to actually use cover or concealment as its unlikely those things will allow you to be in any stance.

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